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Post by mich007 on Dec 28, 2006 18:49:32 GMT
Okay I am going to be honest. Ash I really see you beyond glamour and I always thought you wouldn't go beyond to implied topless. I have also been concerned that although this pays well it could limit your opportunities in the future well a career in presenting. (But then it depends on what you want) Also I get fed up with people dissing you saying that is all you're worth and you'll probably end up on TVX, people on a certain forum/youtube use this as an opportunity to berate you. ( You say you are not bothered but I worry that it does affect you, but I saw you in the house in the final week where the bullying bitching isolation chanting etc.. finally got to you and you broke down it was quite disturbing to watch and many of us really felt for you) Remember Ash in the business you are in there are people who will try to exploit you to make a mint (even though they may pay you handsomely) and then put you on a scrap heap when someone younger comes along. Think carefully about what you are doing, what I am saying think long term career-wise. To do some of the stuff you said you want to do like a Tricia type thing prospective employers will look at your CV. On a more positive note what I do like about you is that you don't appear to have all your eggs in one basket. Admittedly I don't know what opportunities have come your way and that you are calling the shots with what you want to do as you receive offers but I personally think you're worth more than the glamour stuff. I loved the photo-shoot in More and the 40's style thing in Closer. I wish someone would offer you a deal to be the face of fashion for a High Street outlet. I think you'd be great. There was a rumour about you fronting a politics show for young people not sure where that came from, but it would be great if you got something like that or a chat show like Tricia. Finally I will say that I watched BB6/7 with interest. I have followed you as I really want to see you get something in showbiz that will secure you financially long-term. I gather your dream is to be on TV presenting or to be successful in films or to have a successful radio show if I am right here's hoping Okay I've given my opinion but respect that you will do what you want. P.S: If you click on the links below it will lead you to some opinion poll result threads that you may find interesting. ashfans.proboards84.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1167299419ashfans.proboards84.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1167241971ashfans.proboards84.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1167263345
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Post by Clash on Dec 28, 2006 22:42:07 GMT
I probably shouldn't say too much at this stage as I've yet to see the photoshoot in the magazine. All I've seen so far is a picture of the front cover on the Nuts website, but I have to be honest and say that I'm disappointed that you appear to be concentrating your efforts on topless modelling. Like Mich, I believe you have so much more to offer. It's not that there's necessarily anything wrong with it - although there are certainly people who will look down on you because of it - and it may well pay good money in the short term, but in the longer term I fear it will close more doors for you than it will open. I wouldn't want your options to be limited because you have become stereotyped as a topless model, but I think there is a real danger of that happening, even more so if you go ahead with your plan for a further breast augmentation (which, in my opinion, is completely unnecessary).
Also, I hope that you are doing this because it is something you want to do and not because anyone is putting pressure on you to do it. I'm sure you are perfectly capable of deciding what course of action is best for you, but given your previous reluctance to go beyond implied topless, I have to wonder.
To end on a positive note, I wasn't keen on the heaviness of your make-up in the previous Nuts shoots, but this one (from what I've seen of it) appears to be a vast improvement.
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Post by dannyk on Dec 28, 2006 23:08:42 GMT
Hey Ash, Let me start by saying that I will support you no matter what you choose to do in the future, and it's your decision to take any path that you please. I'm sure a lot of other fans feel the same way. Seeing as you're interested to hear your fans' opinions, however, I'll give you mine. While I don't see that there's anything particularly wrong with topless modelling, I agree with others that I hope it wouldn't close too many doors for you, because I'd love to see you get more TV and radio work next year. I think that the other shoots have been fine though. I love how you can appeal not only to the lads mags' target audiences, but also to the audiences of women's magazines with your fantastic shoots for More and Closer which see you looking beautiful. Just like in the house, you can tick so many boxes and appeal to different people. The Daily Star seem committed to you with the shoots that you have been doing so hopefully stuff like that can pay your bills without topless shoots being necessary. As I said before though, follow your heart and we'll always be behind you all the way.
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Post by Julian on Dec 28, 2006 23:38:53 GMT
Aisleyne's particularly interested in what everyone thinks of her latest Nuts front cover and shoot. I think all three of her Nuts shoots have had pros and cons. The first shoot was more raunchy but the makeup made her look a bit hard. More like the bad-girl from the audition video. For the second shoot (the school-teacher one) the first picture was really nice but most of the others were a bit severe. This latest shoot is definitely the most natural looking. She looks really sweet and I love the picture on p43. I think my ideal would be the look of the third one, the raunch of the first one and a bit of the kinkiness of the second one I loved the interview by the way. One doesn't usually buy Nuts for the articles but I really enjoyed it Keep up the good work, Ash, you look fabulous Regards Julian
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Post by Julian on Dec 28, 2006 23:54:32 GMT
Ash I really see you beyond glamour and I always thought you wouldn't go beyond to implied topless. I have also been concerned that although this pays well it could limit your opportunities in the future well a career in presenting. I think the only doors that might close from topless modelling would be children's TV. Jodie Marsh is about as famous a glamour model as you can get with plenty of topless shoots and yet she's been on several TV programs this year, has been recently filming a major project and, according to her blog, just got a job as a presenter. Michelle Bass has several exciting things in the pipeline too. I really don't think producers think twice about such things these days (or if they do it's probably more a positive than a negative). It's too late to worry about it now, anyway. It's already a fait accompli! Regards Julian
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Post by mich007 on Dec 29, 2006 0:08:15 GMT
Ash I really see you beyond glamour and I always thought you wouldn't go beyond to implied topless. I have also been concerned that although this pays well it could limit your opportunities in the future well a career in presenting. I think the only doors that might close from topless modelling would be children's TV. Jodie Marsh is about as famous a glamour model as you can get with plenty of topless shoots and yet she's been on several TV programs this year, has been recently filming a major project and, according to her blog, just got a job as a presenter. Michelle Bass has several exciting things in the pipeline too. I really don't think producers think twice about such things these days (or if they do it's probably more a positive than a negative). It's too late to worry about it now, anyway. It's already a fait accompli! Regards Julian Remember Julian I am giving Ash my individual opinion of how I see things, she will have to look at our posts individually and make up her own mind if she wants to draw from what we have said. I would prefer for my opinion to stand on its own in this instance, rather than for it to be challenged like in other threads (not meaning this in a rude way) as Ash will be browsing to see what we think. You have obvously given your opinion and I will not challenge it. (That doesn't mean I agree with what you have said though) But I still stand by what I say for the reasons I have quoted and not just because it could affect her future chosen career path. Though it may be fait accompli! she can still do a uturn before she gets involved more deeply if she chooses. She has asked for my honest opinion and I have given it. I doubt If Jodie and Michelle Bass will be given long term contracts on primetime TV. Then again the jury is still out..... Thanks
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Post by odm on Dec 29, 2006 1:43:21 GMT
I think its lovely that Ais has asked our opinion on her Topless shoot. It categorically tells me that Aisleyne is concerned about the opinion of those who support her and actually is interested in what we think. We no longer live in an era where nakedness is a problem. I think we ALL realistically should accept that. Aisleyne has a good body which looks good with or without clothes on it. That is the bottom line. Because we have witnessed her character on TV, our thoughts towards her go deeper than 'what we see', we see Ais on the outside and we may feel we have got to know a little of the Ais on the inside. Why am I saying this? I am saying it to remind Aisleyne and everyone that clothes ' dont maketh a man'...therefore, if Aisleyne goes topless, bottomless or altogether completely naked what difference does it make when the pictures are taken in the utmost good taste?... I hear some of us wondering whether this will affect her future?... No. It wont. We need to go back in history and dig about. Read about Shirley Bassey and what she was up to before she got famous...she is VERY famous now...there are a great many stars who have had very tricky backgrounds ( Madonna? ) and it has not done their future fame any harm. Aisleyne has had a background of street credibility, a survivors background..she is a young beautiful woman who pre BB was attempting to cut it in the modeling world. That was maybe her entire aim along with the hope of perhaps getting into films or anything that she could prove herself with. Some people are just BORN to the limelight and they do what they can to be who they are inside. It is their way of expressing themselves that lead them to putting themselves up for media attention.. Aisleyne is a woman on a journey. Aisleyne has a sexuality which she displays in a very tasteful way. There is nothing nasty, ugly or derogatory about any of her modelling work. Its tasteful and suggestive in a good way. Linda Lusadi was a very famous model in the 70s, a page three beauty. There was nothing cheap about her either. She was beautiful, good looking and clean living..and she did the job for the money. She was beautifully spoken and ended up marrying a nice guy and having a family. She did plenty of bits and pieces for TV and presentations etc.. and she earnt her money and built her little empire. Aisleyne has nothing to worry about. I really think people should stop worrying about this topless work. Aisleyne is young ONCE in her life...she needs to make the most of it. Lets support her in every way.
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Post by secrethousemate on Dec 29, 2006 2:00:58 GMT
We no longer live in an era where nakedness is a problem. I think we ALL realistically should accept that. Aisleyne has a good body which looks good with or without clothes on it. That is the bottom line. You have a way with words, don't you ? ;D But in all seriousness, you are spot on. In 2006 a topless photoshoot is no big deal. Its what Nuts and Zoo etc were created for, to bring what used to be top shelf stuff into the media mainstream. If Aisleyne has the talent and dedication to get these 'prime time' contracts then, in time, she will get them, if she harbours that ambition. Being a Nuts favourite isn't going to prevent that from happening. She obviously cares about her fans' opinions though and this is touching. She always was concerned about the feelings of others when in the BB house. BB was a microcosm of real life - it did give a glimpse of the real Aisleyne, if not the whole picture. I felt personally we saw more of her than any of the others because she wore her heart on her sleeve and didn't hold back on her opinions just because it was a TV show. I think she was very much giving us the real her. I think she should listen to all the advice coming to her - particularly from her close family, friends and agent. They should know her best and know whats best for her professionally. Ultimately it is her decision and I'm sure she'll make the right decisions because I trust her to do so. She'll do what's right for her, not for what some fans may believe is right for her.
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Post by ofni on Dec 29, 2006 2:07:33 GMT
You look fantastic in these pictures, Aisleyne.
I think, though, you look even more fantastic in the Closer "Screen Siren" pics. I REALLY hope you get plenty more of that sort of gig, and more modelling for Lipsy and the like.
Also to repeat what I've said in the Ask Ash Post on this subject, what the Nuts shoot show DOES show is that you don't need a boob job. Why put perfection at risk?
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Post by odm on Dec 29, 2006 2:12:20 GMT
We no longer live in an era where nakedness is a problem. I think we ALL realistically should accept that. Aisleyne has a good body which looks good with or without clothes on it. That is the bottom line. You have a way with words, don't you ? ;D But in all seriousness, you are spot on. In 2006 a topless photoshoot is no big deal. Its what Nuts and Zoo etc were created for, to bring what used to be top shelf stuff into the media mainstream. If Aisleyne has the talent and dedication to get these 'prime time' contracts then, in time, she will get them, if she harbours that ambition. Being a Nuts favourite isn't going to prevent that from happening. She obviously cares about her fans' opinions though and this is touching. She always was concerned about the feelings of others when in the BB house. BB was a microcosm of real life - it did give a glimpse of the real Aisleyne, if not the whole picture. I felt personally we saw more of her than any of the others because she wore her heart on her sleeve and didn't hold back on her opinions just because it was a TV show. I think she was very much giving us the real her. I think she should listen to all the advice coming to her - particularly from her close family, friends and agent. They should know her best and know whats best for her professionally. Ultimately it is her decision and I'm sure she'll make the right decisions because I trust her to do so. She'll do what's right for her, not for what some fans may believe is right for her. lol ...thank you SHM xxx
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Post by mich007 on Dec 29, 2006 8:41:21 GMT
Just to add to what I have already said:-
I think it is quite interesting that you want us to comment on you latest nuts photo-shoot you've never asked us before to my knowledge. Is it because you have your apprehensions or you just want a general opinion. I'm sure you can see that we all have different opinions from which you may or may not wish to draw from. On a personal note apart from me being concerned about your long term career prospects in showbiz and how you are perceived in general I have also wondered how this will affect your relationship on a personal level with those who should be close. Do you ever wonder whether moving in this direction could further complicate things. I know I am sounding like an agony aunt now and you may think what I am saying is a load of !*?!* and I know that there are some on this forum who will immediately refute what I am saying, but at the end of the day it is my honest opinion. If I said the opposite I just would be telling you what I thought you wanted to hear. The final thing I want to say is don't do something just because of what others say it's okay if you are not personally fully comfortable with something usually it's a sign that you need to step back or change strategy. In a nutshell what I am saying is that if you are not fully comfortable with it follow your heart.
Well that's my tuppence worth....
By the way I know you've quoted Jordon as a role model some people have likened you to or measured you up against Jodie Marsh how do you feel about that?
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Post by Julian on Dec 29, 2006 12:09:23 GMT
Remember Julian I am giving Ash my individual opinion of how I see things, she will have to look at our posts individually and make up her own mind if she wants to draw from what we have said. I would prefer for my opinion to stand on its own in this instance, rather than for it to be challenged like in other threads (not meaning this in a rude way) as Ash will be browsing to see what we think. Sorry Mich007, I wasn't thinking of it as a challenge, more a question of reassurance ;D At the end of the day Aisleyne's agents are probably best placed to know what the implications are but, from what I've seen personally, I've not noticed any detrimental affect on the ability of topless models to get work on other TV shows. I recognize that you have other reasons for being concerned, though. Regards Julian
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Post by emptybox on Jan 1, 2007 15:53:47 GMT
I've now seen the Nuts pictures, and I do like them. I've got no problem with topless (or bottomless) pictures, and I don't think they will have any impact on Ash's future career. I'm not sure about Ash's hair in these pics. It looks a bit too white on top, but that's a matter of personal preference. ;D I have to say though that these pics don't have the same impact as the second Nuts shoot (the school ma'am ones) IMO. Those seemed to have an impact over and above the usual glamour photos. Almost iconic images. Perhaps something to do with the severe hair style coupled with the make-up? These new ones, though nice, seem to be fairly standard glamour shots.
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Post by notwrong on Jan 2, 2007 10:21:51 GMT
Dear Ash, I'm not a fan of Nuts but have bought a copy of all the editions you've been in. And, as far as I'm concerned, the latest shoot is the nicest.
I notice that you used a different photographer and stylist for this third Nuts shoot. I didn't really like the styling of the first two photoshoots by Frank White. They didn't really allow your personality to shine through.
The latest shoot has a softer "girl-next-door" style that's a lot easier on the eye, although talking about eyes, I think they went a bit overboard on the eye shadow. Even though the shoot was very sexy, I'm still not sure whether that is the perfect look for you. I'd have thought something a bit sassier would be better, perhaps combining the styling, hair and make-up of the More magazine fashion shoot with the things that Nuts readers expect to see!
I tell you what though Ash, you seem to be able to pull off all these different looks with ease. I was particularly impressed with your recent 1950s photoshoot. Photographers must love you. I know I do!
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Post by ofni on Jan 2, 2007 11:24:36 GMT
I tell you what though Ash, you seem to be able to pull off all these different looks with ease. I was particularly impressed with your recent 1950s photoshoot. Photographers must love you. I know I do! I tell you what though, notwrong, you're not wrong!
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Post by maringo on Jan 4, 2007 15:29:11 GMT
There's a gallery on the Nuts website which you can rate... www.nuts.co.uk/covergirls/issue-51-aisleyne-topless/474It also says "We've had loads of requests for more Aisleyne via our myspace page, youtube content etc so here she is in all her glory! Enjoy!". It's good to hear that there was a lot of demand for more pictures of Aisleyne.
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Post by ofni on Jan 4, 2007 16:23:51 GMT
There's a gallery on the Nuts website which you can rate... www.nuts.co.uk/covergirls/issue-51-aisleyne-topless/474It also says "We've had loads of requests for more Aisleyne via our myspace page, youtube content etc so here she is in all her glory! Enjoy!". It's good to hear that there was a lot of demand for more pictures of Aisleyne. Yes, maringo, that's a doubly encouraging endorsement, innit? First, that there's been good feedback from the readers, and second that Nuts are publishing the fact. They must be pretty much committed to further shoots to be saying that, surely. Maybe in that exotic location Aisleyne was proposing in this last interview! Good call, Aisleyne! BTW OA-ers, if you think you seen all these before, I should point out that one of the pics in the gallery is an uncensored version of the front cover photo. One other little noteworthy point is that I see that the airbrush-person has wisely left in place the little freckly moles on Aisleyne's torso. I'm reluctant to admit to it, but I find them ever so sexy - maybe it's the thought of a sort of adult dot-to-dot exercise ...oo-er .... Well Aisleyne HAS asked for feedback, blame her not me! Odm, quick, where's that cold shower picture?
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Post by odm on Jan 4, 2007 18:38:58 GMT
There's a gallery on the Nuts website which you can rate... www.nuts.co.uk/covergirls/issue-51-aisleyne-topless/474It also says "We've had loads of requests for more Aisleyne via our myspace page, youtube content etc so here she is in all her glory! Enjoy!". It's good to hear that there was a lot of demand for more pictures of Aisleyne. Yes, maringo, that's a doubly encouraging endorsement, innit? First, that there's been good feedback from the readers, and second that Nuts are publishing the fact. They must be pretty much committed to further shoots to be saying that, surely. Maybe in that exotic location Aisleyne was proposing in this last interview! Good call, Aisleyne! BTW OA-ers, if you think you seen all these before, I should point out that one of the pics in the gallery is an uncensored version of the front cover photo. One other little noteworthy point is that I see that the airbrush-person has wisely left in place the little freckly moles on Aisleyne's torso. I'm reluctant to admit to it, but I find them ever so sexy - maybe it's the thought of a sort of adult dot-to-dot exercise ...oo-er .... Well Aisleyne HAS asked for feedback, blame her not me! Odm, quick, where's that cold shower picture? this might help too
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Post by maringo on Jan 4, 2007 18:48:22 GMT
this might help too A fan in the shower? Are you trying to electrocute ofni?
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Post by secrethousemate on Jan 4, 2007 20:15:05 GMT
One other little noteworthy point is that I see that the airbrush-person has wisely left in place the little freckly moles on Aisleyne's torso. I'm reluctant to admit to it, but I find them ever so sexy - maybe it's the thought of a sort of adult dot-to-dot exercise ...oo-er .... Well Aisleyne HAS asked for feedback, blame her not me! Odm, quick, where's that cold shower picture? Too much ofnimation?
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