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Post by Julian on Jan 15, 2007 23:40:10 GMT
I think Shilpa has some great qualities Julian. You can dispute what you like but my very success in my life is purely down to being a good judge of character. I'm not suggesting that Shilpa is a nasty person. She is hardworking and I have already said I admire her ambition. I still think she is a snob and that is my opinion. Dispute it all you like but I'm entitled to it and you wont change it. I'm not attacking your right to your opinion. When someone states an opinion I disagree with I will post my disagreement (it gets me into trouble a lot but, hey, that's what discussion forums are for as far as I'm concerned!) Whether you choose to be swayed by the arguments or dismiss them out of hand is up to you. Personally I like to keep an open mind when in a discussion  I do not think it is right to post an opinion as fact, however. Even the best judge of character can be wrong on occasion. Especially since BB filters everything we see. Indeed it would be if that was what happened. I don't recognize that description, however. Shilpa doesn't have a problem with the lower classes, she has a problem with certain people's rudeness and disrespect towards others and towards themselves. I wouldn't call that snobbish I'd call that someone with values. As for the laughing - we use laughter to defuse a situation, or to try to show we're not as upset as we actually are. I've never heard Shilpa use laughter derisively. I've heard Danielle use laughter derisively but that doesn't make her a snob it makes her something else entirely  Seeing things as they are is not as easy as you suggest. We all believe we see things as they are. A lot of people chanting "Aisleyne Out" week after week thought they were seeing things as they were. We all have different interpretations of what we see and we can all get the wrong end of the stick. I think most of the arguments between the girls at the moment are a good example of that. Many of them are a direct result of misunderstanding and misinterpretation on both sides. Regards Julian |
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Post by emma on Jan 16, 2007 11:10:58 GMT
I'm not going to get into an arguement over it to be frank and pull people's threads apart. I can do that on BBGF and DS if I wanted to. The fact is I know what I saw from the moment the Goodys entered the house and I made an honest assessment of that from my experience. I think what I am trying to say from my original post has been missed completely and there is more interest in placing Shilpa on a flawless pedestal than actually reading what I have written. Therefore I will refrain from contributing to this thread any longer. I'm not telling anyone to dislike shilpa. There is plenty to be admired about her. What I am saying is when you make an observation of the show at least be honest about it because I have seen a lot of fibbing about the facts. This issue, ironically, is not just black and white as people would like to believe.
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Post by Julian on Jan 17, 2007 0:55:05 GMT
I think what I am trying to say from my original post has been missed completely and there is more interest in placing Shilpa on a flawless pedestal than actually reading what I have written. I believe I understood what you were trying to say I just don't agree with it. Nor do I see anything wrong with addressing specific comments with specific points. I'm not trying to be argumentative or confrontational, here. We're all friends on this board, as far as I'm concerned, but that doesn't mean we have to agree all the time  You said that Shilpa was disloyal to her friends but I don't recall any example of Shilpa doing anything untowards to her friends (or anyone else for that matter). You say she's nice to people she doesn't like but I, personally, don't have a problem with that. I remember a conversation between Michael and Aisleyne just after Ais returned from the house next door in which Aisleyne basically said that it was better to be nice to people even if you don't like them because to confront them and 'be real' was to hurt them and that was the last thing she wanted to do. Aisleyne essentially said that she'd rather be nice to people she didn't like and be booed for being fake than to be mean to them and treat them badly. Shilpa said it herself, at one point, actually. She said that she was forthright with people but not to the point of being rude or hurtful towards them. I think it's an admirable trait to try to get along with people regardless of how you feel about them. Some people might call it fake but I think it's just a question of being open-minded. Treat people with kindness and they return it, return hostility with hostility and nobody wins. Regards Julian |
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Post by emma on Jan 17, 2007 13:22:55 GMT
People have different senses of loyalty. Ours obviously vary from eachother. I have seen at least one example of Shilpa being disloyal in my humble opinion. I doubt you would have seen it as such. I'm afraid we're going to have to agree to disagree.  |
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Post by Julian on Jan 17, 2007 22:43:48 GMT
People have different senses of loyalty. Ours obviously vary from eachother. I have seen at least one example of Shilpa being disloyal in my humble opinion. I doubt you would have seen it as such. I'm afraid we're going to have to agree to disagree. Fair enough |
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