NOTW (Dec 31)

[emptybox]

I don't want this to turn into a discussion about what Michelle did or didn't do, but I can't resist giving my opinion, then I'll shut up on the subject.

Nobody knows precisely what Mich and Stu got up to under the table (or behind the screen in the Love Shack) because it was hidden, and they have never said.
O.K. we know, but it was no more in your face than being in a hotel room and hearing noises from the room next door.

It was as far away from porn as those old movies where a couple went to bed and the camera showed shots of the waves rolling in or somesuch.

People have got up to much worse on subsequent BBs IMO.

I shall say no more on the subject.

[mich007]

I've got to be honest when I read the headline that Michelle Takes Aisleyne Under her wing, it sent a shiver down my spine, what with her presenting TVX and that. (No disrespect to Michelle fans or TVX fans though). I suppose that this debate could go on and on, at the end of the day we all have different opinions, it's the way of the world. I think I want to see more of the Ash I saw in the house, the fun-loving personality the friend etc... I know it's been said I'm just repeating it. I suppose at the end of the day Ash will do what she wants, I think it could have easily been predicted that she could move in this direction, (i.e pre BB pics) she may have needed a little encouragement/reassurance which could have come from Michelle who knows, but ultimately the decision would have been hers I think, though I still wonder why she wanted our opinion on the Nuts shoot.

A word about Chantelle, I can remember seeing her in the CBB house and really liking her. However I really didn't want her to be friends with Jodie when she came out. I have to say that I was pleased she kept away. Funnily enough Chantelle was trying to make it as glamour model before CBB, when she won that all changed. Perhaps if Ash had actually won it would have been a different story, cheers Endemol

[emptybox]

Ah Chanty! My other fav. ;D
That's an entirely different subject, so I can break my silence.

I don't think Chantelle's heart was ever in glamour modelling.
If you look at the pre BB topless shots of her she looks utterly miserable, and I don't think she could have cut it in that world, unlike our own Miss H-W (apologies Ash for taking this way off topic).

Don't get me wrong, I love Chantelle, and there is more than a hint of steel in that young lady, but it was 'Fame' in whatever form that she craved. And in a modest way she has achieved it.

[odm]

emptybox said:

Ah Chanty! My other fav. ;D
That's an entirely different subject, so I can break my silence.

I don't think Chantelle's heart was ever in glamour modelling.
If you look at the pre BB topless shots of her she looks utterly miserable, and I don't think she could have cut it in that world, unlike our own Miss H-W (apologies Ash for taking this way off topic).

Don't get me wrong, I love Chantelle, and there is more than a hint of steel in that young lady, but it was 'Fame' in whatever form that she craved. And in a modest way she has achieved it.

I like the honesty of Chantelle. Its quite right what you say in your post EB...I dont think she had Glamour Modelling in mind either...she has what I call a smiley giggly face and I think you need to make love to the camera more than I think Chantelle could...she would laugh I think LOL but she will do well in other avenues because she is quite savvy...she is in my mind the equivalent to Jade, slimmer and prettier and able to wing it.

[Julian]

emptybox said:

It was as far away from porn as those old movies where a couple went to bed and the camera showed shots of the waves rolling in or somesuch.

Indeed. Plus it was not done for any kind of exhibitionist or cynical reason it was simply that she'd fallen head over heels for Stuart and couldn't stand not being able to consummate their relationship which, incidentally, lasted for another year after BB had finished.

To say that she presents TV/X is also a misnomer. All she did was film some adverts for it which involved nothing worse than standard glamour model stuff that we've already seen from Aisleyne.

As for Chantelle and Jodie I think Chantelle dropping Jodie like that was disgraceful behaviour. Jodie had been nothing but friendly and supportive to Chantelle throughout her time in the house and to sever all ties without a word of explanation the way she did was quite out of order. For the most part I like Chantelle but that was definitely not nice.

Regards

Julian

[remaha]

I'm not totally sure how the tabloids work, but my guess is that Big Pictures offered the photos to the NOTW with a couple of ready-made quotes. Or maybe, the NOTW saw the picures and said, we'll print 'em if you can give us a story about sex to go with 'em.

What I'd really like to know (although I'm sure I'll never find out) is how Aisleyne makes money from her appearance in the NOTW. Normally, if you're a celeb and a pap take your photo you get nothing. As Ash has a relationship with Big Pictures, she presumably gets a cut of any income from the Miami photo, which I am assuming was posed.

Maybe she also got paid for doing the interview? Maybe she got nothing out of it? Maybe it's just something she's required to do to stay in the limelight?

One thing that puzzles me is that if Ash has a b/f why the gossip columns haven't named him?

[mich007]

The thing is when we look at things we all see different things. Because we all have different morals standards and beliefs.

The fact remains glamour modelling does tarnish your career in showbiz, there are doors that will be forever closed on you and it is a business that is quite often snared upon. But that's a risk I think a lot of people who venture into this industry are prepared to take I suppose, Of course those who embrace the glamour mags and channels such as TVX because they see it as a form of pleasure so no surprises there really......But there's another side to the story; as there always is.

It's interesting that Chantelle didn't keep in contact with Jodie but I do think she may have been advised. The thing is Jodie's public image appears to be tarnished for various reasons, (perhaps one of the reasons is that she was pictured once out and about adorning belt that barely covered her top half. Some may find that attractive and cool but personally I don't but then it's just my opinion. I think they wanted to present Chantelle as someone who was squeaky clean the sweet girl next door, but of course she had skelton's. However I think she saw her win on big brother as a fresh start. Perhaps she was advised not to associate with Jodie (who IMO came across very mixed up in the house) as it would be as if she was taking steps backwards. She wanted to get away from the glamour image an everything that surrounded it IMO. Some people are not good to hang around you because they can influence in a way that will not be beneficial. We have to choose those we associate with carefully, and friendships are not necessarily for a lifetime they may just be for a season. Jodie had high expectations of her friendship with Chantelle but something changed when Chantelle came out of the house, and that is Chantelle's choice IMO.

A word about Michelle Bass, I don't know too much about her to be honest but IMO if someone gives there services to TVX it's almost if they are saying they support everything it stands for. Not meaning to offend any TVX fans just making a statement

[emptybox]

remaha said:

One thing that puzzles me is that if Ash has a b/f why the gossip columns haven't named him?

The question is, was this the first time Ash had been to Miami?

[remaha]

emptybox said:

remaha said:

One thing that puzzles me is that if Ash has a b/f why the gossip columns haven't named him?

The question is, was this the first time Ash had been to Miami?

Empty is that a rhetorical question? Cos I don't know the answer. Is it? Or isn't it? You can't leave me hanging like that.

If it's my starter for ten, I'd take stab at "No, it's not the first time!" . . in which case, she may have been meeting someone she already knows who lives in the States . .

[emptybox]

I don't know the answer either rem. ;D

What I meant was, is she referring to her recent trip in the article, or a previous visit and a previous boyfriend?

Sorry to tantalise you unnecessarily.

[bengos]

remaha said:

What I'd really like to know (although I'm sure I'll never find out) is how Aisleyne makes money from her appearance in the NOTW. Normally, if you're a celeb and a pap take your photo you get nothing. As Ash has a relationship with Big Pictures, she presumably gets a cut of any income from the Miami photo, which I am assuming was posed.

I could be wrong, and I don't know if it differs from paper to paper, but if an article is done which implies an interview/consent, the celeb is paid. Jennie was paid for the recent page she got in the Daily Star, for example, which was a selection of pics from her ZOO photoshoot and quotes from a "spokesman". Obviously it would not be right for me to divulge here how much she got.

Hope this helps.